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i don't think this fiscal cliff talks will resolve anything. nothing. charles: the whole thing, though, a lot of conservatives are saying boehner may not be that far away from obama in ideology. in other words, he's purged the tea party within the ranks of the leadership within the g.o.p. and seems to be willing to go down the same path as the president. >> i'm not sure i believe that. i think boehner's heart is in the right place, but he's caught up. it's his role to sort of grind out a deal with the president, rather than speak for the party. noww you know, stuart, in the british system, someone will stand on the floor of the house of commons in the opposition and give a major statement of the party's position in any given fight. i don't see why it should not be possible to designate somebody like paul ryan or eric cantor or even marco rubio to stand down in washington and give a major presentation. charles: if they give the presentation and the lead ser doing something different -- and the leader is doing something different, isn't that a mixed messa
i don't think this fiscal cliff talks will resolve anything. nothing. charles: the whole thing, though, a lot of conservatives are saying boehner may not be that far away from obama in ideology. in other words, he's purged the tea party within the ranks of the leadership within the g.o.p. and seems to be willing to go down the same path as the president. >> i'm not sure i believe that. i think boehner's heart is in the right place, but he's caught up. it's his role to sort of grind out a...
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two host: we are talking about businesses and the fiscal cliff. we have a fourth line set aside for business owners. we want to hear from you as well. dave is a republican in cincinnati, ohio. welcome to the conversation. caller: hi. guest: hi. caller: is this jim doyle? guest: yes it is. caller: it is a little different than watching it on television. guest: i'm staring at the camera and pretended it is you. caller: all three of the segments this morning had to do with the fiscal cliff, so i feel i hit the trifecta. my question has to do with each segment. if i could ask the first segment if you could pose this question to the other two guests at in the other two segments. my question is a lot of people, whether they are on tv or politically or in the newspaper, they have forgotten about 21 new taxes coming up january 1 for relating to obamacare -- i'm sorry, the health care system. this affects all americans, not just high earners or poor people. and my question is, how does this affect the 12 taxes put are going to be on all americans and nine
two host: we are talking about businesses and the fiscal cliff. we have a fourth line set aside for business owners. we want to hear from you as well. dave is a republican in cincinnati, ohio. welcome to the conversation. caller: hi. guest: hi. caller: is this jim doyle? guest: yes it is. caller: it is a little different than watching it on television. guest: i'm staring at the camera and pretended it is you. caller: all three of the segments this morning had to do with the fiscal cliff, so i...
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up next, my observation on what it will take to make real progress on these fiscal cliff talks. we're back in a moment. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. it's a new day. if you're a man with low testosterone, you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in
up next, my observation on what it will take to make real progress on these fiscal cliff talks. we're back in a moment. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with...
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all right, stocks closely watching the fiscal cliff talks. coming up, chief investment officer will tell us what will happen if there is a deal where if there is no deal. ashley: michael bloomberg crack a joke the only people buying egos. he could soon become one of those. as it everyday at this time, take a look at how oil is trading moving slightly lower even though the suggestion demand from china is off, oil down slightly by $0.10, 85.83 per barrel. tracy: it is time to make some money with charles payne. this hour he is looking at online networking site linked in. getting a little bounce, but has been on a tear. charles: this is a incredible stock. you put six flights out of business. i'm telling you right now. today part of the reason it is up, kind of odd, some sort of stock speculation mayor bloomberg may be interested in doing something, taking it over. even without that, this is a stock i like a lot. at least the third time this year my subscribers are in a stock. the latter earning report my two cents coby district by 100%, the sto
all right, stocks closely watching the fiscal cliff talks. coming up, chief investment officer will tell us what will happen if there is a deal where if there is no deal. ashley: michael bloomberg crack a joke the only people buying egos. he could soon become one of those. as it everyday at this time, take a look at how oil is trading moving slightly lower even though the suggestion demand from china is off, oil down slightly by $0.10, 85.83 per barrel. tracy: it is time to make some money with...
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cliff talks. >> reporter: it's 23 days since the fiscal cliff deadline. it's 23 days since they met face-to-face to talk about how to avert it. this was a surprised meeting. nobody spotted boehner coming or going. nobody is saying much beyond two statements. the wording here is identical ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday. on friday mr. boehner said the white house wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting. for a first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even if it's the wording of their statement an keeping fight lipped. >> thank you. in today's meetings, is it a sign we're close to a fiscal cliff deal. i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and
cliff talks. >> reporter: it's 23 days since the fiscal cliff deadline. it's 23 days since they met face-to-face to talk about how to avert it. this was a surprised meeting. nobody spotted boehner coming or going. nobody is saying much beyond two statements. the wording here is identical ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday. on friday mr. boehner said the white house wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't...
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plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of staff is growing more optimistic we'll be able to get a deal before the cliff dive. by the way, will he take a job in president obama's cabinet? i'll have that answer straight ahead. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. you can see it's michigan with the lunch time remarks. back to the white house before 5:00. [ male announcer ] when ziggy the cat appeared at their door, he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein... ...to help keep ziggy's body as strong as a love that reaches further than anyone's words. iams. keep love strong. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take up to an extra
plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of staff is growing more optimistic we'll be able to get a deal before the cliff dive. by the way, will he take a job in president obama's cabinet? i'll have that answer straight ahead. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. you can see it's michigan with the lunch time remarks. back to the white house before 5:00. [...
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we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them from going up from as many people as possible or they will go up on everyone. that's a disaster. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we can. >> meanwhile, you're right. the president was in detroit where he continued his outside-inside game of running a campaign-style effort to jin up popular support for the fiscal cliff. because he was in michigan he took a whack at the proposed legislation -- the so-called right to work legislation. listen to the president. >> these so-called right
we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going...
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the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan president yugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery. this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return. he named the vice president as his choice for his choice in case something happens to him. he's scheduled to be swarn in for a new six-year term on january 10th. >>> some very sad news for fans of music superstar jenny rivera. they have found the wreckage of the private jet believing to be carrying the popular mexican-american singer and six others. the plane lost contact early this morning. so far, no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the menorah has been illuminated tonight, marking the start of hanukkah. >>> of course, no hanukkah celebration would be complete without the spinning dradel. >>> you're getting slammed right now by a major winter storm in the g
the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan president yugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery. this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return. he named the vice president as his choice for his...
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breaking news on the fiscal cliff talks. president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and there's no grown-ups in washington that will say time-out, stop the politics, let's have a compromise rather than continue to play the game through the press and hurt the country. >> more on this story in just a few minutes with our senior political analyst, david gergen. >>> a half million dollars, that's the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in a car accident this weekend that killed teammate jerry brown, jr. police believe brent was drunk wh
breaking news on the fiscal cliff talks. president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on...
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something we were talking a lot about and stopped because the fiscal cliff insanity. that is. >> europe. europe has the potential to unravel this is not a decade-long agenda, this is actually within a year maybe, i don't know. it has the possibility of breaking apart, having a severe recession that will impact the u.s. economy and that made all this momentum that we are hopefully starting to see in the u.s. economy. liz: are we wasting too much time on fiscal cliff discussion and the potential effect on our money, should we not be focusing on these other issues and somehow bulletproof our investments as it pertains to each one of these concerns. we talk about doubling up. >> we should make pay more attention to europe. the attention we're paying to the fiscal cliff is not actually productive. in fact, it is leading to polarization of positions that have to be negotiated in private, and the lesson here from washington, the better i like the fiscal cliff. liz: the talks were secret today. >> might notice the financial markets are not actually very volatile in response t
something we were talking a lot about and stopped because the fiscal cliff insanity. that is. >> europe. europe has the potential to unravel this is not a decade-long agenda, this is actually within a year maybe, i don't know. it has the possibility of breaking apart, having a severe recession that will impact the u.s. economy and that made all this momentum that we are hopefully starting to see in the u.s. economy. liz: are we wasting too much time on fiscal cliff discussion and the...
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a comment from this but talking about the fiscal cliff issue. -- a comment from facebook talking about the fiscal cliff issue. i want to show you a bit this morning of president obama in an interview with the bloomberg tv on tuesday talking about where he is in the debate. [video clip] >> i did not expect republicans to agree to any plan where they are betting that the entitlement reform will happen. we will have to have specific downpayments now recognizing we will have to continue to work to see if we can come up with better ideas to reduce health- care costs over the long term. that is the framework we are operating on. within that framework, i am happy to be flexible. i recognize i will not get 100%. i will not agree to a plan a in which we have some revenue that is vague and potentially comes out of the pockets of middle- class families in exchange for some very specific entitlement cuts that would affect seniors or other folks who are vulnerable. host: president obama with the bloomberg tv. next up, sarah on the republican line. caller: i think president obama is blackmailing the
a comment from this but talking about the fiscal cliff issue. -- a comment from facebook talking about the fiscal cliff issue. i want to show you a bit this morning of president obama in an interview with the bloomberg tv on tuesday talking about where he is in the debate. [video clip] >> i did not expect republicans to agree to any plan where they are betting that the entitlement reform will happen. we will have to have specific downpayments now recognizing we will have to continue to...
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. >>> news of fiscal cliff talks have been making headlines. here is their twist on budget talks for today's late-night laughs. >> we'd like to announce that we have reach and agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there would be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. now, why would i do that? i mean i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. earlier this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria, and what i do see? john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party wanted to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> these are supposed to be his friends. his colleagues. but even at the hint that the taxes might be raised on his leadership watch, they turn on him. tell them what you found in your office desk. >> oh, i don't -- >> no, no. go ahead. hey, tell them what your so-called friends
. >>> news of fiscal cliff talks have been making headlines. here is their twist on budget talks for today's late-night laughs. >> we'd like to announce that we have reach and agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there would be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. now, why would i do that? i mean i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. earlier this week i found...
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because this is a big deal, and we're talking about a fiscal cliff and great drama. if we stay on the same spending path, i thought i'd show you what happens if we change it to the boehner plan, the obama plan. let's start out with the do-nothing plan, because that's the plan we've got right now. the congressional budget office estimates our fiscal year 2013 deficit will be, well, $104 trillion for fiscal 2013, okay? and here's what happens to our national debt as a result of this baseline. it's going tt surge from $16.3 trillion to $17.5 trillion at 2013, then we get out here to about 2014, it's going to be, well, it's going to be about 19.4. 20.3 trillion, 20.3 trillion if we do nothing in 2016: and by 2022, out here, it's going to be $25.8 trillion. that's if we do nothing about this spending, this runaway spending, this irresponsible government. now let's take a look at what happens if president obama gets tough, and he gets it done. the president calling for $1.6 trillion in higher taxes. he wants $82 billion a year from that top 2%. by the way, that's the same
because this is a big deal, and we're talking about a fiscal cliff and great drama. if we stay on the same spending path, i thought i'd show you what happens if we change it to the boehner plan, the obama plan. let's start out with the do-nothing plan, because that's the plan we've got right now. the congressional budget office estimates our fiscal year 2013 deficit will be, well, $104 trillion for fiscal 2013, okay? and here's what happens to our national debt as a result of this baseline....
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. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. well, there they were side-by-side, and for real they were in the white house this weekend. president obama taking his message of middle class tax cuts and tax increases for the rich to detroit today. just as michigan is facing a big vote against union organizing in a state long identified with the labor movement. joining me now for our daily fix, msnbc contributor and managing editor of "post politics.com". good day to you. well, first of all, the labor movement really on the ropes now in michigan of all places. michigan where detroit, of course, was the heart of the auto movement, the auto union, and now you've got a vote -- final vote is tomorrow as t
. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington....
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before we get to fiscal cliff, let's talk a little bit about syria. there are now reports that they may be loading the components that would make up sarin gas. and i'm curious to know and i think a lot of people are watching this, does this mean that we are headed, the united states is headed into military action considering what we know about the red line, if you will, that hillary clinton laid out pretty clearly? >> it was very important for her to draw a very clear line. because any use of chemical weapons has to be responded to internationally. i'm sure the secretary of state is immersed with russia right now, is in negotiations with russia for a united front against this absolutely unacceptable possibility. >> okay. so she's laid that out. but then the next step, of course, if, in fact, they're putting together the components that create sarin gas and they're leading these into weapons, are we going to war insider to stop this? the united states. >> i think that the u.s. is going to be laying out a series of actions in partnership with some other
before we get to fiscal cliff, let's talk a little bit about syria. there are now reports that they may be loading the components that would make up sarin gas. and i'm curious to know and i think a lot of people are watching this, does this mean that we are headed, the united states is headed into military action considering what we know about the red line, if you will, that hillary clinton laid out pretty clearly? >> it was very important for her to draw a very clear line. because any...
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breaking news on the fiscal cliff talks. president obama and john boehner met face to face trying to prevent the fiscal cliff now 23 days away. their last face-to-face meeting was november 16th. we don't have any specific details on that conversation. reps from both side s say line of communication remain open. >>> 500,000, that is the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in the car accident this weekend that killed teammate jerry brown jr. police believe brent was drunk when the accident happened. >>> president obama visits union-heavy michigan tomorrow. a state he won easily last month and now the center of new labor protests. the michigan legislature is close to passing a right to work law and that is not sitting well with workers in the state where organized labor was born. one of the biggest labor unions in the country, united auto workers, is firmly against the law which limits the unions' power. michigan's republican governor says he'll sign the bill if it h
breaking news on the fiscal cliff talks. president obama and john boehner met face to face trying to prevent the fiscal cliff now 23 days away. their last face-to-face meeting was november 16th. we don't have any specific details on that conversation. reps from both side s say line of communication remain open. >>> 500,000, that is the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in the car accident this weekend that killed teammate...
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cliff talks. president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even if it's just the wording of their statements and keeping tight-lipped about what was said. don? >> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think tha
cliff talks. president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on...
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host: we are continuing our series, looking at different parts of the fiscal cliff talks. joining us now is robert levenson, a senior defense analyst at bloomberg government. let's begin with what secret -- with what sequestration means. caller -- guest: it is a funny term. if you have looked it up on google 20 months ago, it would have something to do with coal and carbon, but this is about automatic cuts going into place known as sequestration. host: how did this come about? where is it headed? caller: as we recall from last year, there was a crisis over raising the debt ceiling. republicans demanded some cuts from congress. they agreed to $1 trillion in cuts, they handed over $1.50 trillion to the super committee. because they failed to come up with a deal that could be approved by congress and the president, those automatic cuts go into effect, $1.20 trillion over 10 years. the first cut will go into effect on january 2 of 2013. host: how are the defense sequestration cuts being applied? are we sure? guest: we are not exactly sure, but the law says that every program a
host: we are continuing our series, looking at different parts of the fiscal cliff talks. joining us now is robert levenson, a senior defense analyst at bloomberg government. let's begin with what secret -- with what sequestration means. caller -- guest: it is a funny term. if you have looked it up on google 20 months ago, it would have something to do with coal and carbon, but this is about automatic cuts going into place known as sequestration. host: how did this come about? where is it...
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those who are in the market talk about the fiscal cliff every day. does the average consumer out there moms and pops, do they talk about the fiscal cliff? does it factor into their spending efforts? >> not really. that's a great question. and the answer is no, not really. what i think really is happening with the michigan numbers and the sentiment numbers is a little bit of optimism that followed on the back of the election process. and then it's settling back in that nothing's going to change. nothing is going to get better. nothing's happening in washington. there is no movement towards consensus on either side of the debate. people look at that and say what were we so optimistic about? i think the cliff will be more of an effect afterwards. but to go back to stewart's point, he's talking about 2% growth in spending. 2% consumer growth is probably going to produce a very weak gdp number. although we had a nice number on the boost, we'll have a horrible in the next quarter. which isn't great. that's really the point. 11% rise in fedex sales not goin
those who are in the market talk about the fiscal cliff every day. does the average consumer out there moms and pops, do they talk about the fiscal cliff? does it factor into their spending efforts? >> not really. that's a great question. and the answer is no, not really. what i think really is happening with the michigan numbers and the sentiment numbers is a little bit of optimism that followed on the back of the election process. and then it's settling back in that nothing's going to...
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>> right now, susie, the fiscal cliff talks are clearly the item dejure for the stock market. i think most people expect exactly what eric miller was talking about from the fed. and bern bueno ben bernanke hasn transparent and telling people well in advance what he is going to do. the $85 billion should continue building up for our taxpayers balance sheet. >> susie: how does all of this play out in the markets. all of the bond buying, companies are still lding off from hiring and spending, and now the risk, possibly of a recession. how does it play out in the markets for 2013? >> what has happened, with all of this cash going into the market -- into the economy, not only from the u.s. fed, but from europe, from the central bank there, as well as from china, don't forget, so we've had this liquidity which has taken asset prices with the stock market and the bond markets, pricing it way up, it is actually helping housing after a long wait. moving into the future, there will be some duction in relythe fear that people have. it is not only a lack of confidence, but it is a fear of
>> right now, susie, the fiscal cliff talks are clearly the item dejure for the stock market. i think most people expect exactly what eric miller was talking about from the fed. and bern bueno ben bernanke hasn transparent and telling people well in advance what he is going to do. the $85 billion should continue building up for our taxpayers balance sheet. >> susie: how does all of this play out in the markets. all of the bond buying, companies are still lding off from hiring and...
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all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character trying to end his recurring nightmare in "groundhog day." >> we musn't keep it waiting. >> he might be ok. chris: the worst movie analogy we could imagine ends badly for all concerned. let's hope and pray that thelma and louise are not boehner and obama. my own favorite clip is mount rushmore, "north by northwest," the hitchcock great with cary grant pursued by spies. the survival is never in doubt. not sure if that's true now. when we return, the hillary clinton for 2016 talk is ready to roar. scoops and predictions. chris: we just re-elected barack obama but the hillary for president talk is getting lou
all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character...
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cliff discussions by folding the debt ceiling into fiscal cliff talks. take a listen. >> obama: congress, in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> jennifer: fortunately for us "newsweek" "daily beast" special correspondent michael tomasky is always up for playing political games himself. he's joining us from washington d.c. thanks for coming back inside "the war room." >> it is always my pleasure, governor. >> jennifer: always a pleasure to have you. so let me talk about this debt ceiling issue. because really, as we look at it really, the only leverage that republicans have on the fiscal cliff talks they proceed to be with the debt limit right? so today the treasury department ups the ante by endorsing republican senator mitch mcconnell's summer 2011 provision which, you know, he suggested and it effectively lets the president rai
cliff discussions by folding the debt ceiling into fiscal cliff talks. take a listen. >> obama: congress, in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> jennifer: fortunately for us "newsweek" "daily beast" special correspondent michael tomasky...
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john boehner taking fiscal cliff talks and that is raising hopes among traders. cheryl: we are going to take a look at what is beyond the fiscal cliff even of washington save the country from going over that cliff we have a stock panel that has lots of worries and a bit of hope that. dennis: which makes some buzz codes when the dow is up 111. michigan's capital and besieged as protests over the right to work legislation has taken an ugly turn. we are live. cheryl: never know what is going to happen with jeff flock covering that story. we're coming up on the top of the hour. stocks every 15 minutes and nicole petallides on the floor of the stock exchange with a nice triple digit gain. nicole: what a gain on wall street. we have three straight weeks of gains to new recent highs. looking at 13,300 on the dow jones industrial, that is good and the s&p 500 calm, holding above the 1400 mark. they were worried when we were breaking down below and we are continuing the trend to the upside. one of the reasons is europe, europe has been a break out and the dollar has been
john boehner taking fiscal cliff talks and that is raising hopes among traders. cheryl: we are going to take a look at what is beyond the fiscal cliff even of washington save the country from going over that cliff we have a stock panel that has lots of worries and a bit of hope that. dennis: which makes some buzz codes when the dow is up 111. michigan's capital and besieged as protests over the right to work legislation has taken an ugly turn. we are live. cheryl: never know what is going to...
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cliff talks. later, more on the role of social security with christina martin of aarp and david john of the heritage foundation. washington journal in life every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. -- is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the white house was very controversial. designed, who washington city, there was competition and he submitted the design for a palace. americans were not having a palace. it was not particularly awe inspiring. in 1821, a european diplomat told congress it was nearly -- neither large nor awe inspiring but the answer he gave said the building served its purpose. if it were larger and more elegant, perhaps some president would be inclined to become its permanent resident. >> vicky goldberg has gathered a few of whitehouse photos. watch sunday evening at 7:30 on c-span3's >> from the u.s. chamber of commerce, and look at the fiscal challenges facing the nation. including negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. former comptroller general david wa
cliff talks. later, more on the role of social security with christina martin of aarp and david john of the heritage foundation. washington journal in life every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. -- is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the white house was very controversial. designed, who washington city, there was competition and he submitted the design for a palace. americans were not having a palace. it was not particularly awe inspiring. in 1821, a european diplomat...
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cliff talks raising billions of dollars in november compared to the previous month. it is up, believe it or not, $1.1 trillion coming year-over-year. will this put pressure on the white house and congress to put bispending cuts on the table? let's ask scott garrett of new jersey and vice-chairman of the budget committee. $1.1 trillion deficit for 2012 budget. that is just not there. >> it is not good. i understand that you're going to have a marriage counselor? [laughter] so i assume the answer is that one of the issues that lead to a breakup is right overspending. that's what we have here. tracy: we are dying to know why we can't get this figured out. >> well, just as in marriage, to solve the problem on spending some you have to sit around a the kitchen table and get open the checkbook. i guess that is the exact same thing that needs to be going on here in washington. speaker boehner has been trying to do that. the money is just flowing out, we will continue to talk about the legislature and the president has not come to the kitchen table with a real plan. tracy: t
cliff talks raising billions of dollars in november compared to the previous month. it is up, believe it or not, $1.1 trillion coming year-over-year. will this put pressure on the white house and congress to put bispending cuts on the table? let's ask scott garrett of new jersey and vice-chairman of the budget committee. $1.1 trillion deficit for 2012 budget. that is just not there. >> it is not good. i understand that you're going to have a marriage counselor? [laughter] so i assume the...
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a new request from speaker boehner that could actually bring both sides together on the fiscal cliff. >> good, lord, is that possible? also, president morsi sends in tanks to keep the peace as violent protests rage in cairo. we'll have a live report from the region. >> i'll tell you what, it is a mess in egypt, the parties starting to fight each other, meet the new pharaoh, same as the old pharaoh, unbelievable. >> we have full coverage on that coming up, but first, let's get the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> the effort to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff is now a two-man operation. president obama and speaker boehner. thank you. nobody else will be in the room. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his mess dwrooj the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of
a new request from speaker boehner that could actually bring both sides together on the fiscal cliff. >> good, lord, is that possible? also, president morsi sends in tanks to keep the peace as violent protests rage in cairo. we'll have a live report from the region. >> i'll tell you what, it is a mess in egypt, the parties starting to fight each other, meet the new pharaoh, same as the old pharaoh, unbelievable. >> we have full coverage on that coming up, but first, let's get...
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real estn the world, the fiscal cliff. ed henry tells us not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, there is no progression to report. report. >> reporter: he blasted for not offering a counterproposal to his plan and they seemed more than ever going to stop the tax increase. economy shrugged off hurricane sandy to create 146,000 new jobs, nearly double what forecasters had said, job creation for september and october was revised downward by a total of 49,000. another 350,000 people were
real estn the world, the fiscal cliff. ed henry tells us not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it...
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late day comments from harry reid about the lack of progress on the fiscal cliff talks really put the brakes on today's rally. at the close we saw the dow gaining 78 points. the s&p adding 9 points. the nasdaq up 35. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common sense. social security are just numbers thinkin a budget.d... well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with r
late day comments from harry reid about the lack of progress on the fiscal cliff talks really put the brakes on today's rally. at the close we saw the dow gaining 78 points. the s&p adding 9 points. the nasdaq up 35. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before...
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cliff talks. they were still public today. here's where the president started speaking to the business round table and where we learned also that those 40 republicans part of this bipartisan group that would be open to new ideas on the fiscal cliff talks. of the dow, the best performers and worst performers today, the full-ti financials higher led by bank of america. nasdaq, we need to highlight this, was lower, down 20 points today. why? because of apple. apple had one of its worst days. we highlighted this earlier. something very archean called the death cross, the 50-day moving average crossed below the 200-day moving average. what does that mean? just means it could be going lower from here. down 6% on apple today. the yield of the ten-year went lower. as they were buying stocks, they were also buying treasuries today. we were below 1.58 for a time on the ten-year note. finally, watch the vix. the fear indicator continues to move lower today. we've not been above 20. sort of the yellow flag te
cliff talks. they were still public today. here's where the president started speaking to the business round table and where we learned also that those 40 republicans part of this bipartisan group that would be open to new ideas on the fiscal cliff talks. of the dow, the best performers and worst performers today, the full-ti financials higher led by bank of america. nasdaq, we need to highlight this, was lower, down 20 points today. why? because of apple. apple had one of its worst days. we...
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coming up, the confusion over what's really going on with the fiscal cliff talks. our first read team said just look at the headlines. senior political editor mark murray joins me live. which of the headlines does he believe is more accurate. check out the "news nation" tumbler page and you will find behind the scenes pictures. i guess we took this to mark 12-12-12 and we do you wanted hospital. maybe some of us will go to the concert to help sandy relief. 12-12-12. new trident layers juicy berry + tangy tangerine is a thrilling, dual-flavored ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. ♪ ♪ i want candy ♪ ♪ i want candy time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly
coming up, the confusion over what's really going on with the fiscal cliff talks. our first read team said just look at the headlines. senior political editor mark murray joins me live. which of the headlines does he believe is more accurate. check out the "news nation" tumbler page and you will find behind the scenes pictures. i guess we took this to mark 12-12-12 and we do you wanted hospital. maybe some of us will go to the concert to help sandy relief. 12-12-12. new trident layers...
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a very stark assessment from the house speaker on where the fiscal cliff talks stand with 24 days to go. where should you put your money heading into this weekend? could be a very crucial weekend. >>> no worries. with the unemployment rate still near an 8% level, why some companies can't find workers. there's work and it is not a skills gap. we'll show you what else is being factored in to that equation. >>> and no fair, perhaps? well, a big change at big blue. ibm changing the way it pays down its 401(k). will other companies follow suit? tyler mathisen, my partner, who is always fair, always working, and is always a work in progress, according to this, is at new york stock exchange. hi, ty. >> i am the ultimate work in progress. thank you very much. >>> despite the assessment from the speaker of the house on the fiscal cliff, the fact he says there is no progress being made so far, the dow sort of playing past it. right now the industrials up by 46 points at 13,120 and change. apple is part of the nasdaq. apple down $14 a share. another 2.66% today as scott mentioned a moment ago,
a very stark assessment from the house speaker on where the fiscal cliff talks stand with 24 days to go. where should you put your money heading into this weekend? could be a very crucial weekend. >>> no worries. with the unemployment rate still near an 8% level, why some companies can't find workers. there's work and it is not a skills gap. we'll show you what else is being factored in to that equation. >>> and no fair, perhaps? well, a big change at big blue. ibm changing...
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but so sad. >> terrible. >>> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. we know they are talking, but we don't know what the president and house speaker john boehner are saying, they have been keeping fiscal cliff negotiations very quiet. the president doesn't have any public appearances scheduled today. people are reading the tea leaves, saying it's more serious than before. let's get to jeff sessions from alabama. ranking member of the budget committee. >> soledad, nice to be with you. >> appreciate that. is that a fair read, the quieter it gets means more is getting done. when they are saying nothing, it means we're close to a deal? >> you know, when we are reading tea levels a tea leaves and that's all we have, that's how bad it is. it looks like the president and the speaker of the house will decide this on christmas or new year's eve and plopped down in congress and we'll be told to vote for it or have a national crisis. this should have been done in public, been talking about this for months, it should have been openly done. american people observi
but so sad. >> terrible. >>> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. we know they are talking, but we don't know what the president and house speaker john boehner are saying, they have been keeping fiscal cliff negotiations very quiet. the president doesn't have any public appearances scheduled today. people are reading the tea leaves, saying it's more serious than before. let's get to jeff sessions from alabama. ranking member of the budget committee. >> soledad, nice to be...
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is the season for giving, but don't let washington fiscal cliff talks cloud your judgment for finding the best cherries for your dope. ou experts shares tips on what you need to know. we are on the case next on "the willis report". ♪ gerri: big changes coming to tech giant ibm that may change the way you save for ♪ gerri: there is the story out there not getting a lot of attention today that you need to hear about, particularly if you care about your retirement. ibm overhauling its retirement program. instead of contributing to its employees 401(k) over time, the company will opt to contribute a lump-sum payment once per year. this may not sound likea big change, but the move undermines the very idea of retirement savings. lo, the attraction of a fox business is the idea hat you leveled out what you pay for in investments over time. stock prices go up, they go down, but over time you avere out your risks and your cost. i call it dollalar cost averagi. but with ibm's new plan, the advantage of its lead disappears. this would not be such a big deal, but ibm is considered a leader in
is the season for giving, but don't let washington fiscal cliff talks cloud your judgment for finding the best cherries for your dope. ou experts shares tips on what you need to know. we are on the case next on "the willis report". ♪ gerri: big changes coming to tech giant ibm that may change the way you save for ♪ gerri: there is the story out there not getting a lot of attention today that you need to hear about, particularly if you care about your retirement. ibm overhauling...
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. >>> let's talk fiscal cliff for a moment. it's getting closer, but the deal still doesn't seem all that close. president obama, congressional republicans seem to be digging in on taxes. a new wall street journal/nbc poll shows an overwhelming majority of americans are siding with the president on this one. republicans polls, a majority now favoring compromise. white house correspondent brianna keilar is following some of these negotiations for us. 19 days and counting. how is it feeling? >> reporter: right now it's not going well, at least that's what you get when you listen to house speaker john boehner talk about conversations with the president. they are talking, soledad. the staff of both the white house and house republicans are in touch, but speaker boehner said about his sunday conversation with president obama that it was cordial, and then he said about his tuesday conversation with the president that it was deliberate and frank. so you -- it doesn't take too much to read between the lines there to show you that thing
. >>> let's talk fiscal cliff for a moment. it's getting closer, but the deal still doesn't seem all that close. president obama, congressional republicans seem to be digging in on taxes. a new wall street journal/nbc poll shows an overwhelming majority of americans are siding with the president on this one. republicans polls, a majority now favoring compromise. white house correspondent brianna keilar is following some of these negotiations for us. 19 days and counting. how is it...
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the aide said the meeting is taking place a shakeup of some sort is required in the fiscal cliff talks due to the inflexibility of the white house. now, what that shakeup is was not spelled out to me, but there are two ways that that can go. one is for the white house to suddenly give ground on spending cuts and detail additional entitlement savings as the speaker has requested, but another way to do it which seems more likely given the cracks in republican unity is if republicans decouple the top tax rates from those at the bottom, that is the president's proposal to extend the tax cuts for 98% of american families and let taxes go up for the 2%, don't know that that's going to happen but the idea of a shakeup in the talks suggest to me that we may be at some sort of a break point. >> so shakeup being real -- real changes from what we've heard so far. i hear what you're saying on taxes. what's the shakeup on spending, john? >> reporter: well, that's the question. what i said a moment ago, maria, was that the republican aide said the white house sip flexible. we hope what comes out of
the aide said the meeting is taking place a shakeup of some sort is required in the fiscal cliff talks due to the inflexibility of the white house. now, what that shakeup is was not spelled out to me, but there are two ways that that can go. one is for the white house to suddenly give ground on spending cuts and detail additional entitlement savings as the speaker has requested, but another way to do it which seems more likely given the cracks in republican unity is if republicans decouple the...